A9Art and Culture.docx

A9Art and Culture.docx

《A9Art and Culture.docx》由会员分享，可在线阅读，更多相关《A9Art and Culture.docx（20页珍藏版）》请在冰豆网上搜索。

A9ArtandCulture

A9-ArtandCulture

A9-ArtandCulture

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.ArtandCulture

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------

SIDEA

------

OK,today'stopicisartandcultureandthisiskindoflikeamoderntopic,somethingwecankindof,um,getintohere.ThisisViv.

Vivian:

Yes,well,artandculture,it'ssuchabroad,ahratherspectrumtodiscuss,Youknow,IreallyhavetoadmitthatI'dlovetobethoughtofasartyfarty,butIdon'tthinkIam,soI'mjustgonnaturnittoyou,Bow.

 Bow:

Hey,mynameisBow.Iconsidermyselfartyfatty,but,um,yesIlikethingsfrom,everythingfromHycroppotiestoMatissetoPicasso,andMondrian,andculture,youknoweverythingfromtheWestIndies,youknow,pygmiestoYoga.

Luke:

That'scool,Idon't,IneverreallythoughtIwasarty,Iusedtoreallytry,reallyhardtobearty.Iusedtotrytoplayguitar,butIwasn'tverygoodatthat,andthenItriedpainting,andIwasn'tverygoodatthat.ButthenIstartedpaintingguitars,andum,Ihaveawholecollectionofpaintedguitars.Icallit"Guit-art"andurn,IhopeIcanstarthangingitupatmuseumsprettysoon,solookupforit.

Vivian:

AndIgotoneofthoseinmybathroom,too?

Luke:

Yeah,talktome,ifyouneedmynumberorwhatever...

Daisy:

Anyway,Let'sgetintoit.

Luke:

O.K.

Daisy:

O.K.Well,youknow,Ioftenconsideredmyself,youknow,tohavequiteagoodappreciationofart.Butthesedays,whatconstitutesart,couldbemanydifferentthings.So,whatdoyouthinkthenisArt,andwhatmakesArt,Art.

Luke:

IguessthemainthingformethatwouldconstituteArtis,um,it's,well,basicallyinit'spurestform.Artisjustthisrandomspurtingofcreativeimpulse,like,ifyouwill.Anditdoesn'treallyhaveapurpose,afunctionalpurpose,exceptforfunctionalArt,Iguess.Whichbyitsowndefinitionis,hasapurpose,andhasafunction.But,well,Imean,justpureArtinitselfis,um,issomethingthatdoesn'treallyserveanypurpose,likeit,itwon't,itwon'tgrateyourcheese,anditwon't,youknowmakeyourhairsmellniceoranything.

Daisy:

So,then,you'resayingthatArtis,functionalonlyforthepersonthatcreatesit?

Cause,PaulCezannesaidthat,thatArtwasintheprocess,notthefinishedproduct,so,ifitdoesn'tserveapurpose,isitonlyservingsometypeof,releasefortheartisthimself?

Luke:

OrtheappreciatoroftheArt,someone,obviously,peoplewhoappreciateArt,appreciate,thesamethatwasevidentwhentheartwascreated.

Daisy:

Sothen,itdoesserveapurpose.

Luke:

Ofcourse,butnotthatsortoftangiblefunctionalpurpose,Imean,it'smoreofaspiritualpurpose,it'smoreapersonalpurpose.

 Bow:

ExceptforfunctionalArt.

Luke:

ExceptforfunctionalArtlikeareallycoollookingchair.It'scoollookinganditmaybemight,makeyoufeelsomething.Ifit'sred,itmightmakeyouthink,"Ooh,I'm,feelingverypassionate,thatreallyspeakstome",andthenwhenyousititin,you'resittingdown,and,hey...

 Bow:

So,O.K.Whatdoyouthinkabout,...Ducharnp,andhisUrinalsandthingslikethat,Doyoubelievethat,thatwasArtornot?

Luke:

I'dhavetoseehisstuff,Iguess.

 Bow:

Well,it'saurinal.

Luke:

It'saurinal?

 Bow:

Yeah,hejusttookaurinaloffthewall.

Daisy:

But,wasn'thethefirstpersontoeverdothat?

 Bow:

Well,that'sthething.

Daisy:

Right,Imean,it'sthesamethingwithAndyWarholandhiscansofsoup,thefactthathedidsomethingdifferent,createdawholenewgenreofArt,which,youknow,isartisticinitselftobeabletodosomethingindividualistic.

 Bow:

But,isitArtjustbecauseofinthatsense,it'sshocking,becausenoone'sdoneitbefore.So,...isshockingArtconsideredArt?

Luke:

Sure,Ithinkitsayssomethingaboutsociety,it'sabitofareflectionofsociety.IthinkthatAndyWarholandthetomatocans,wassayingsomethingaboutlikeadvertising,andnoonehadbeenaroundlikethismuchlikebannersandthisiconographicsortofrepresentationofjusteverydaythings（Bow:

AccordingtoAndyWarhol）heblewthatup.ButImean,alotpeoplerespondedtoit,andlikethecomicbooksandstuff.Andjusttheselikereallysimpleimagesthatarejusteverywherethatbecomesthepartofthecollectiveconsciousness.

Vivian:

O.K.Butforsimpleme,who'snotinterestedinArt.Whohasno,youknow,noidea,noconcept,nograspofaaindepthpartofanyoftheArts.Forme,IjustdefineArtasmusic,Art.Whatelseisthere?

Daisy:

Yeah.

Vivian:

Yeah,welllikeanysortofperformance,ok.That'sArt.Itiswhatsomeonesays,it'swhat,Idefineitinmysimplemind,butthen,whenyouguystalklikethisthenitsoundstomelike,it'sanysortofsimplepersonal（Daisy:

Expression?

）expressionofyourself,ofyouremotions,ofyourself,ofanything,so,dancethroughmusic,throughsong,through,throughanyofthosevenuses,youcanexpressyourself,andthatisArt.

Daisy:

Youknow,AliceWalker,whowrote,themovie"TheColorPurple",withthebook,shewroteanessayaboutArtandwomenartists,becauseit'sbeenquiteastruggleforwomentobecomesuccessfulartists,especially,youknow,waybackinthe50'sorinthe40's.But,shewassayingthat,youknow,it'sbeenastruggleforwomen,butthinkaboutwhatitwaslikefortheslaves,inAmerica,whentheyfirstcamehere.Notonlywerewomen,likechattelsandbasicallyworkedallthetime.Iftheywere,didhaveanartisticsoul,howweretheygoingtoexpressit?

Andshewassayingthattheyexpresseditineverydaythings.LookatthequiltsthatAfricanAmericanwomenmade.

Vivian:

Iwasjustabouttosaythat.

Daisy:

Thingslikethat.

Vivian:

Lookattheclothesandthequiltsthattheymade.Thoseareexpressionofthemselves.

Daisy:

Thenegrospiritualsthattheysangwhiletheywereworkingon,youknow,thefarmsandthingslikethat.TherewasalwaysanexpressionofArt,eventhough,theywereinapositioninsociety,wheretheyweren'tabletosellitorshareitwithotherpeople.Theyshare,shareditwiththeirfamily,andpasseditonasheirloomstotheirfamily.

 Bow:

AndthroughtheirArt,theyhavecreatedtheirownculture.

Daisy:

Right.

 Bow:

AndIbelievethatthisissomethingthat,theyareforgettingabout,hereinKorea.Ithinkthattheyusedtohaveareallystrongcultureandtheyhad,greatart,theystilldo,Imean,someoldthings.Butthey'relosingthatinthefaceof,youknow,capitalismand...IthinkKoreaisreallylosingitsnationalidentitythatitoncehad.Whereasuh,iftheycouldtakesomeofthosetraditionalArtsthatweresostrong,andmixthemwithmoderndayideas.Thentheywouldcreatetheirownnationalidentityandthencreatetheirownculture,again.And,forbands,andstufflikethat,theyjustripoffothermusicandjustchangethelanguageisnotdoingthat.Ithinkthat,youknow,takingsomeofthe...I'mnotamusician,butinallaspectsofifinfashion.Theyactuallystartedalittlebitin,forexample,theKoreantraditionalclothes,they'remakingthemmorecontemporarylookingbuttheyarebasedonthedesignoftheKoreanstyle.Architecture,notsomuch,it'smorebasedon,againcapitalism（Luke:

Function）andpopulation,andyouknow,puttingasmanypeopleintothemaximizingthespaceandthingslikethat.Andwhereastraditionalstyle,Koreanarchitecture,wasjustamazing.Itwas,therewassomuchspiritualityandphilosophyinit,thatit,itcame,youknow,fromthesepeople'sinspirationsandtheircultureandtheycreatedthesegreatpiecesof,thesegreatworks.Andforoneexample,istakeJapan.Japanhasaverystrongcontemporarynationalidentity.Ifyousee,well,ok,whatever,whoeverstudiedwhat.likeIstudied,forexample,Istudiedarchitecture,sowhenIseeacontemporarystylebuilding,Icantellyouifit'sJapaneseornot.Ifyouhereapieceofmusic,that,youknow,probablycanfigureoutthatit'sJapanesecontemporarystyle,orclothingorpainting.Theyhave,um,theyhavealwayshavebeengoodat,doingthat,gettingtogetherandsayingthat,we'regonnatakeapieceofourtraditionandwe’regonnamixitwiththisnewstuff.Whereasinothercountries,um,they'rejusttakingiton,fullon.AllRight.

 Bow:

Well,Imean,itisstartingalittlebithere,butit'snot,theydon'tquitehavetheidea.

Daisy:

Yeah,whichgetsbacktothepointIthinkweweretalkingaboutbefore,withtheurinalandthe,youknow,andAndyWarhol.Whattheydidwasincrediblysimplistic,youknow,inthebasestformofsimplicity,rippingaurinal,youknow,offawallorputtingpaintingapictureofasoupcan.

Vivian:

Theyweren'ttryingtocomplicateitanymorethanitwas.

Daisy:

But,itwasthefactthat,it,ithadneverbeendownbeforeanditwasshocking,andthat,IthinkistheessenceofmostArt.Somethingthatisoriginalandindividualistic,andtheproblemhereis,ofcourse,youcantakestylesandblendthemtocreatesomethingnew.Butifyou'rejustborrowinganddoingsomethingthatisoldandbeendonebefore,andyou'renotputting...Koreaforexample,Theirold,historicalart,andtheirhistoricalmusicisthatuniquelyKorean.Andwedon'thavetheirAsianscaleorwedon'tinmusic,wedon'thavetheirAsiandesign,theiruniquelyKoreandesign.Andiftheyareabletoencouragethat,makeitmodern,andmakesomethingthatisnew,andjustnotborrowsongsfromeveryoneelse.Thentheywillhaveacompleteandwholeartisticculture.

Luke:

ButArtis,informedbymanythingsanddependingonwherethe,itsayslotabouttheculture