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总统竞选第三次电视辩论稿英文

October15,2008

TheThirdMcCain-ObamaPresidentialDebate

SENS.MCCAINANDOBAMAPARTICIPATEINAPRESIDENTIALCANDIDATESDEBATE,HOFSTRAUNIVERSITY,HEMPSTEAD,NEWYORK

SPEAKERS:

U.S.SENATORJOHNMCCAIN（AZ）

REPUBLICANPRESIDENTIALNOMINEE

U.S.SENATORBARACKOBAMA（IL）

DEMOCRATICPRESIDENTIALNOMINEE

BOBSCHIEFFER,MODERATOR

[*]SCHIEFFER:

Goodevening.Andwelcometothethirdandlastpresidentialdebateof2008,sponsoredbytheCommissiononPresidentialDebates.I'mBobSchiefferofCBSNews.

Therulestonightaresimple.Thesubjectisdomesticpolicy.Iwilldividethenexthour-and-a-halfintonine-minutesegments.

Iwillaskaquestionatthebeginningofeachsegment.Eachcandidatewillthenhavetwominutestorespond,andthenwe'llhaveadiscussion.

I'llencouragethemtoaskfollow-upquestionsofeachother.Iftheydonot,Iwill.

Theaudiencebehindmehaspromisedtobequiet,exceptatthismoment,whenwewelcomeBarackObamaandJohnMcCain.

（APPLAUSE）

Gentlemen,welcome.

Bynow,we'veheardallthetalkingpoints,solet'strytotellthepeopletonightsomethingsthatthey--theyhaven'theard.Let'sgettoit.

AnotherverybaddayonWallStreet,asbothofyouknow.Bothofyouproposednewplansthisweektoaddresstheeconomiccrisis.

SenatorMcCain,youproposeda$52billionplanthatincludesnewtaxcutsoncapitalgains,taxbreaksforseniors,write-offsforstocklosses,amongotherthings.

SenatorObama,youproposed$60billionintaxcutsformiddle-incomeandlower-incomepeople,moretaxbreakstocreatejobs,newspendingforpublicworksprojectstocreatejobs.

Iwillaskbothofyou:

Whyisyourplanbetterthanhis?

SenatorMcCain,yougofirst.

MCCAIN:

Well,let--letmesay,Bob,thankyou.

AndthankstoHofstra.

And,bytheway,ourbelovedNancyReaganisinthehospitaltonight,soourthoughtsandprayersaregoingwithyou.

It'sgoodtoseeyouagain,SenatorObama.

Americansarehurtingrightnow,andthey'reangry.They'rehurting,andthey'reangry.They'reinnocentvictimsofgreedandexcessonWallStreetandaswellasWashington,D.C.Andthey'reangry,andtheyhaveeveryreasontobeangry.

Andtheywantthiscountrytogoinanewdirection.AndthereareelementsofmyproposalthatyoujustoutlinedwhichIwon'trepeat.

Butwealsohavetohaveashort-termfix,inmyview,andlong-termfixes.

Letmejusttalktoyouaboutoneoftheshort-termfixes.

ThecatalystforthishousingcrisiswastheFannieandFreddieMaethatcausedsubprimelendingsituationthatnowcausedthehousingmarketinAmericatocollapse.

Iamconvincedthat,untilwereversethiscontinueddeclineinhomeownershipandputafloorunderit,andsothatpeoplehavenotonlythehopeandbelieftheycanstayintheirhomesandrealizetheAmericandream,butthatvaluewillcomeup.

Now,wehaveallocated$750billion.Let'stake300ofthatbillionandgoinandbuythosehomeloanmortgagesandnegotiatewiththosepeopleintheirhomes,11millionhomesormore,sothattheycanaffordtopaythemortgage,stayintheirhome.

Now,Iknowthecriticismofthis.

MCCAIN:

Well,whataboutthecitizenthatstayedintheirhomes?

Thatpaidtheirmortgagepayments?

Itdoesn'thelpthatpersonintheirhomeifthenextdoorneighbor'shouseisabandoned.Andsowe'vegottoreversethis.Weoughttoputthehomeownersfirst.AndIamdisappointedthatSecretaryPaulsonandothershavenotmadethattheirfirstpriority.

SCHIEFFER:

Allright.SenatorObama?

OBAMA:

Well,firstofall,IwanttothankHofstraUniversityandthepeopleofNewYorkforhostingustonightandit'swonderfultojoinSenatorMcCainagain,andthankyou,Bob.

IthinkeverybodyunderstandsatthispointthatweareexperiencingtheworstfinancialcrisissincetheGreatDepression.AndthefinancialrescueplanthatSenatorMcCainandIsupportedisanimportantfirststep.AndIpushedforsomecoreprinciples:

makingsurethattaxpayercangettheirmoneybackifthey'reputtingmoneyup.MakingsurethatCEOsarenotenrichingthemselvesthroughthisprocess.

AndIthinkthatit'sgoingtotakesometimetoworkitselfout.Butwhatwehaven'tyetseenisarescuepackageforthemiddleclass.Becausethefundamentalsoftheeconomywereweakevenbeforethislatestcrisis.SoI'veproposedfourspecificthingsthatIthinkcanhelp.

Numberone,let'sfocusonjobs.Iwanttoendthetaxbreaksforcompaniesthatareshippingjobsoverseasandprovideataxcreditforeverycompanythat'screatingajobrighthereinAmerica.

Numbertwo,let'shelpfamiliesrightawaybyprovidingthemataxcut--amiddle-classtaxcutforpeoplemakinglessthan$200,000,andlet'sallowthemtoaccesstheirIRAaccountswithoutpenaltyifthey'reexperiencingacrisis.

NowSenatorMcCainandIagreewithyourideathatwe'vegottohelphomeowners.That'swhyweincludedinthefinancialpackageaproposaltogethomeownersinapositionwheretheycanrenegotiatetheirmortgages.

IdisagreewithSenatorMcCaininhowtodoit,becausethewaySenatorMcCainhasdesignedhisplan,itcouldbeagiveawaytobanksifwe'rebuyingfullpriceformortgagesthatnowareworthalotless.Andwedon'twanttowastetaxpayermoney.Andwe'vegottogetthefinancialpackageworkingmuchquickerthanithasbeenworking.

LastpointIwanttomake,though.We'vegotsomelong-termchallengesinthiseconomythathavetobedealtwith.We'vegottofixourenergypolicythat'sgivingourwealthaway.We'vegottofixourhealthcaresystemandwe'vegottoinvestinoureducationsystemforeveryyoungpersontobeabletolearn.

SCHIEFFER:

Allright.Wouldyouliketoaskhimaquestion?

MCCAIN:

No.IwouldliketomentionthatacoupledaysagoSenatorObamawasoutinOhioandhehadanencounterwithaguywho'saplumber,hisnameisJoeWurzelbacher.

Joewantstobuythebusinessthathehasbeeninforalloftheseyears,worked10,12hoursaday.Andhewantedtobuythebusinessbuthelookedatyourtaxplanandhesawthathewasgoingtopaymuchhighertaxes.

Youweregoingtoputhiminahighertaxbracketwhichwasgoingtoincreasehistaxes,whichwasgoingtocausehimnottobeabletoemploypeople,whichJoewastryingtorealizetheAmericandream.

NowSenatorObamatalksaboutthevery,veryrich.Joe,Iwanttotellyou,I'llnotonlyhelpyoubuythatbusinessthatyouworkedyourwholelifeforandbeable--andI'llkeepyourtaxeslowandI'llprovideavailableandaffordablehealthcareforyouandyouremployees.

AndIwillnothave--Iwillnotstandforataxincreaseonsmallbusinessincome.Fiftypercentofsmallbusinessincometaxesarepaidbysmallbusinesses.That's16millionjobsinAmerica.AndwhatyouwanttodotoJoetheplumberandmillionsmorelikehimishavetheirtaxesincreasedandnotbeabletorealizetheAmericandreamofowningtheirownbusiness.

SCHIEFFER:

Isthatwhatyouwanttodo?

MCCAIN:

That'swhatJoebelieves.

OBAMA:

HehasbeenwatchingadsofSenatorMcCain's.LetmetellyouwhatI'mactuallygoingtodo.IthinktaxpolicyisamajordifferencebetweenSenatorMcCainandmyself.Andwebothwanttocuttaxes,thedifferenceiswhowewanttocuttaxesfor.

Now,SenatorMcCain,thecenterpieceofhiseconomicproposalistoprovide$200billioninadditionaltaxbreakstosomeofthewealthiestcorporationsinAmerica.ExxonMobil,andotheroilcompanies,forexample,wouldgetanadditional$4billionintaxbreaks.

WhatI'vesaidisIwanttoprovideataxcutfor95percentofworkingAmericans,95percent.Ifyoumakemore--ifyoumakelessthanaquartermilliondollarsayear,thenyouwillnotseeyourincometaxgoup,yourcapitalgainstaxgoup,yourpayrolltax.Notonedime.And95percentofworkingfamilies,95percentofyououtthere,willgetataxcut.Infact,independentstudieshavelookedatourrespectiveplansandhaveconcludedthatIprovidethreetimestheamountoftaxrelieftomiddle-classfamiliesthanSenatorMcCaindoes.

OBAMA:

Now,theconversationIhadwithJoetheplumber,whatIessentiallysaidtohimwas,"Fiveyearsago,whenyouwereinapositiontobuyyourbusiness,youneededataxcutthen."

AndwhatIwanttodoistomakesurethattheplumber,thenurse,thefirefighter,theteacher,theyoungentrepreneurwhodoesn'tyethavemoney,Iwanttogivethemataxbreaknow.Andthatrequiresustomakesomeimportantchoices.

ThelastpointI'llmakeaboutsmallbusinesses.Notonlydo98percentofsmallbusinessesmakelessthan$250,000,butIalsowanttogivethemadditionaltaxbreaks,becausetheyarethedriversoftheeconomy.Theyproducethemostjobs.

MCCAIN:

Youknow,whenSenatorObamaendeduphisconversationwithJoetheplumber--weneedtospreadthewealtharound.Inotherwords,we'regoingtotakeJoe'smoney,giveittoSenatorObama,andlethimspreadthewealtharound.

IwantJoetheplumbertospreadthatwealtharound.Youtoldhimyouwantedtospreadthewealtharound.

ThewholepremisebehindSenatorObama'splansareclasswarfare,let'sspreadthewealtharound.Iwantsmallbusinesses--andbytheway,thesmallbusinessesthatwe'retalkingaboutwouldreceiveanincreaseintheirtaxesrightnow.

Who--whywouldyouwanttoincreaseanybody'staxesrightnow?

Whywouldyouwanttodothat,anyone,anyoneinAmerica,whenwehavesuchatoughtime,whenthesesmallbusinesspeople,likeJoetheplumber,aregoingtocreatejobs,unlessyoutakethatmoneyfromhimandspreadthewealtharound.

I'mnotgoingto...

OBAMA:

OK.CanI...

MCCAIN:

We'renotgoingtodothatinmyadministration.

OBAMA:

IfIcananswerthequestion.Numberone,Iwanttocuttaxesfor95per