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22100080040000macadhocconferencecallminutesford3ballot

IEEEP802.22

WirelessRANs

MACAd-HocConferenceCallMinutesforD3Ballot

Date:

2010-06-14

Author（s）:

Name

Company

Address

Phone

email

RangaReddy

USArmy

ranga.reddy@ieee.org

Abstract

Thisdocumentcontainstheminutesfor802.22MACAd-hocteleconferences,resolvingD3ballotcomments:

R0hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayMay24th2010at20:

00EDT.

R1isanupdatetotheminutesoftheteleconheldonMondayMay24th2010at20:

00EDT.

R2hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayMay31st2010at20:

00EDT.

R3hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayJune14th2010at20:

00EDT.

R4hastheminutesfortheteleconferenceheldonMondayJune16th2010at20:

00EDT.

Notice:

ThisdocumenthasbeenpreparedtoassistIEEE802.22.Itisofferedasabasisfordiscussionandisnotbindingonthecontributingindividual（s）ororganization（s）.Thematerialinthisdocumentissubjecttochangeinformandcontentafterfurtherstudy.Thecontributor（s）reserve（s）therighttoadd,amendorwithdrawmaterialcontainedherein.

Release:

Thecontributorgrantsafree,irrevocablelicensetotheIEEEtoincorporatematerialcontainedinthiscontribution,andanymodificationsthereof,inthecreationofanIEEEStandardspublication;tocopyrightintheIEEE’snameanyIEEEStandardspublicationeventhoughitmayincludeportionsofthiscontribution;andattheIEEE’ssolediscretiontopermitotherstoreproduceinwholeorinparttheresultingIEEEStandardspublication.ThecontributoralsoacknowledgesandacceptsthatthiscontributionmaybemadepublicbyIEEE802.22.

PatentPolicyandProcedures:

ThecontributorisfamiliarwiththeIEEE802PatentPolicyandProcedures

//standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>,includingthestatement"IEEEstandardsmayincludetheknownuseofpatent（s）,includingpatentapplications,providedtheIEEEreceivesassurancefromthepatentholderorapplicantwithrespecttopatentsessentialforcompliancewithbothmandatoryandoptionalportionsofthestandard."EarlydisclosuretotheWorkingGroupofpatentinformationthatmightberelevanttothestandardisessentialtoreducethepossibilityfordelaysinthedevelopmentprocessandincreasethelikelihoodthatthedraftpublicationwillbeapprovedforpublication.PleasenotifytheChairasearlyaspossible,inwrittenorelectronicform,ifpatentedtechnology（ortechnologyunderpatentapplication）mightbeincorporatedintoadraftstandardbeingdevelopedwithintheIEEE802.22WorkingGroup.Ifyouhavequestions,contacttheIEEEPatentCommitteeAdministratorat.

I.Attendance

Name

Affiliation

24May2010

31May2010

14June2010

16June2010

GeraldChouinard

CRC

X

X

X

X

WinstonCaldwell

FOX

X

X

X

ApurvaMody

BAESystems

X

X

X

X

RangaReddy

USArmy

X

X

X

X

IvanReede

Amerisys

X

X

X

JasonLi

Wi-LAN

X

X

II.2010-05-24Teleconference

II.AAgenda

1）RecordAttendance

2）AskifeveryoneisfamiliarwiththeIEEEpatentpolicy:

http:

//standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.pdf

3）Approvetheagenda.

4）Review/proposecommentresolutionsforcommentsintheMACsection（Clause6）fromthelatestcommentdatabase:

∙DCN#22-10/78r5:

https:

//mentor.ieee.org/802.22/dcn/10/22-10-0078-05-0000-wran-draft-3-0-ballot-comments-database.xls

5）Otherbusiness.

II.BNotes（2010-05-24）

1）RReddyrecordedtheattendanceat20:

05EDT.

2）AcitationtotheIEEEpatentpolicywasprovidedwiththeannouncementofthemeeting.Whenasked,noonenotifiedthechairmanthattheywereunfamiliarwiththeIEEEpatentpolicy.

3）Thewasnoformalagendaprovidedpriortothemeeting,nextweek’sannouncementwillbemorethorough.

4）Review/proposetheresolutionsforthefollowingcommentsinthedatabase:

22-10/78r5.

CID141:

In802.16,theycreateaMACPDUwithaGMHwithCID=PaddingCID.Itwasdecidedtogowiththesimplerapproach（in802.22）,bypaddingtheextraspacewith0’swhicharethenfedintoascrambler,whichisthenmodulatedbytheDIUCorUIUCofthelastburstofthesubframeinquestion.

Resolution:

Accept

CID226:

RReddyproposedthatoneofthepossiblechangesistorestructuretheDS-MAPIEtomakethemthesamelength.

GChounaird,Itwasfoundtobeunnecessary.EvenwithouttheextendedDIUCs,thetotalcountis37bitwhichwouldrequire3bitspaddingforeachIE.With50IEs,forexample,thispaddingwouldrepresent150bits.ItisbettertopaditonceattheendoftheDS-MAP.

Resolution:

Counter

Action:

AddpaddingbitstoTable35,andremovethepaddingbitsfromTables36,38,and39.

CID227:

BasedondiscussionforCID226,wedecidedtoacceptthismodificationatfacevalue.

Resolution:

Accept

CID231:

BasedondiscussionforCID226,wedecidedtoacceptthismodificationatfacevalue.

Resolution:

Accept

CID249:

GroupdecidedtoadoptedthesameapproachforUS-MAPandUS-MAPIEsaswasadoptedforDSinresolutiontoCID226/227/231.

Resolution:

Counter

Action:

AddpaddingbitstoTable46,andremovethepaddingbitsfromTables47,49,50,51,and52.

CID262:

BasedonourresolutiontoCID249,wedecidedtoacceptthiscomment.

Resolution:

Accept

CID267:

BasedonourresolutiontoCID249,wedecidedtoacceptthiscomment.

Resolution:

Accept

CID263:

ThegroupdecidedthattheorderoftheUS-MAPIEs（andcorrespondingUIUCs）shouldbeTable48followedbytheexplanationofEIRPUIUC=9forUS-MAPEIRPControlIE,thenCBPUIUCwhichisalreadyreferencedinTable48underUIUC=0,thenCDMAUIUCwhichisalreadyreferencedinTable48underUIUC=7（10-12arestillreserved）andthentheextendedUIUCandthelastsub-sectionbeingtheDummyExtendedUIUC.

Resolution:

Counter

Action:

GChouinardtoproducetextmodificationtoTable48andrenumberingofUS-MAPIErelatedsections

CID260:

BasedondiscussionforCID263,alsoagreedtodedicatedaspecificUIUCforInitialRanging（=8）.AgreewithinclusionofnewUIUC=8fortheinitialrangingallocation.KeeptheextendedUIUCwithTable50andtheDummyapplicationwithTable51fortestpurposes.

Resolution:

Counter

Action:

GChouinardtomodifyTable48asdiscussed.

CID229:

DiscussionledgrouptoagreetokeeptheExtendedandDummyIEsforDS-MAPtoaccommodatefutureexpansion.WithregardtothiscommentnonewmodificationsarerequiredtoTables37,38,and39.Table40willbehandledbyresolutiontocomment228.

Resolution:

Counter

CID228/230:

GrouphadpreviouslyagreedtoacceptnewCIDmanagementapproachoriginallyproposedinDCN#22-09/112r1.Itwasagreedinprincipletoremovethe"IF（Include_CID）"rowand

remove"N_CID"rowandremovethe"forloop"rowsincenoclearapplicationwasfoundfortheuseofmultipleCIDsforaDS-MAPIE.AlsoremovetheCIDSwitchextendedCID,thatissection6.10.2.1.2.2andTable40.AnewDCN#22-09/112r2needstobeuploadedbyRReddy,thatwillindicateallthespecificmodificationstodraftthatwillberequired.OnesuchmodificationiswillbetothestructureofDS-MAPIE.

Resolution:

Pending

5）OtherBusiness（furtherdiscussionviaEmail）:

CID226:

InthecaseoftheDS-MAPinTable35,wenolongerneedthe4reservedbitsonrow4ifthepaddingbitstotheoctetboundaryisaddedattheendoftheTable.Also,thetwoextendedDIUCIEs（genericandDummyinTable38/39）shouldexpresstheirtotallengthsinbitswithan8bitLengthparameterandthepaddingbitsshouldberemovedfromTable38and39.

Resolution:

Counter,applythisnewresolutionforCID226.

CID252:

GChounaird:

US-MAPCBPChannelIEisavariablesizeIEandshouldeitherinclude5paddingbitsbeforethe“Length”parameterandthe“CBPIEsrelayflag”shouldbebroughtforwardbeforethe“Length”parameterifwewanttokeepthelengthinoctets.Otherwise,the“Length”shouldbeexpressedinbitswithatleast7bits.Whatisthepreference?

RReddy:

Mypreference,basedonwhatwediscussedlastnightisthelatter.Expressethelengthinbits.Butis2^7=128enough?

TheCBPburstisatotalof836bits.AccountingforCBPMACPDUheader,Istillthelength>128.PlusIhavesomeissueswithCBP,thatIwanttobringupduringtheCoexistenceandnextMACcalls.Wecaninitiateanotheremaildiscussionforthat.

GChounaird:

Agreewiththelengthinbits.However,thisIEonlytransmitstheCBPIEsthatneedtobeincludedtotheCBPattheCPE,nottheentireCBP.Isuggest8bitsforthelength,whichwouldgivesusupto31CBPIEstobeaddedtotheCBP.Thatshouldbeplenty.Iwillalignalltheotherlengthsto8bitsin#ofbits.

RReddy:

However,Gerald,regardingtheUS-MAPCBPChannellE.IknowthatCURRENTLYthisistospecifyhowmanyCBPIEsarebeinggiventotheCPEtousetoconstructaCBPBurst.Frankly,thisisafeaturethatI'mnotentirelycomfortablewith.IwouldbemoreinfavoroftheBSconstructingtheCBPburstandandjustusingtheCPEasadumbterminaltorelayit.ThiswouldsimplifytheCPE,e.g.allowconcentrationofCBPbursttxlogicandCBPsecurityattheBS.ThishasbeenbroughtinCID169-Apurva（discussedinBeijing）andCID408-myself.169hasbeencounteredandtheprinciplebehinditwasaccepted.So,asfarastheCBPChannelIEisconcerned,itshouldreallycoverthelengthoftheCBPburstminusCBPMACPDUheader（hopingthatCBPMACPDUheaderdoesn'thavevariablelength）.

Resolution:

Defer.

Action:

NeedtocometofinaldecisionoffunctionalityofCBPtransmissionandsubsequentlythespecificsoftheUS-MAPCBPChannelIE.Thiswillalsoaffecttheresolutionof