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美国总统大选第二场辩论
(CNN)-PresidentBarackObamaandRepublicanpresidentialnomineeMittRomneymetinHempstead,NewYorkTuesdayeveningforthesecondofthreepresidentialdebates,moderatedbyCNNChiefPoliticalCorrespondentCandyCrowley.
CROWLEY:
GoodeveningfromHofstraUniversityinHempstead,NewYork.I'mCandyCrowleyfromCNN's"StateoftheUnion."Wearehereforthesecondpresidentialdebate,atownhall,sponsoredbytheCommissiononPresidentialDebates.
CROWLEY:
TheGalluporganizationchose82uncommittedvotersfromtheNewYorkarea.Theirquestionswilldrivethenight.Mygoalistogivetheconversationdirectionandtoensurequestionsgetanswered.
Thequestionsareknowntomeandmyteamonly.Neitherthecommission,northecandidateshaveseenthem.Ihopetogettoasmanyquestionsaspossible.
CROWLEY:
AndbecauseIamtheoptimisticsort,I'msurethecandidateswillobligebykeepingtheiranswersconciseandonpoint.
Eachcandidatehasasmuchastwominutestorespondtoacommonquestion,andtherewillbeatwo-minutefollow-up.Theaudiencehereinthehallhasagreedtobepoliteandattentive-nocheeringorbooingoroutburstsofanysort.
WewillsetasidethatagreementjustthisoncetowelcomePresidentBarackObamaandGovernorMittRomney.
(APPLAUSE)
Gentlemen,thankyoubothforjoiningusheretonight.Wehavealotoffolkswho'vebeenwaitingalldaytotalktoyou,soIwanttogetrighttoit.
GovernorRomney,asyouknow,youwonthecointoss,sothefirstquestionwillgotoyou.AndIwanttoturntoafirst-timevoter,JeremyEpstein,whohasaquestionforyou.
QUESTION:
Mr.President,GovernorRomney,asa20-year-oldcollegestudent,allIhearfromprofessors,neighborsandothersisthatwhenIgraduate,Iwillhavelittlechancetogetemployment.Whatcanyousaytoreassureme,butmoreimportantlymyparents,thatIwillbeabletosufficientlysupportmyselfafterIgraduate?
ROMNEY:
Thankyou,Jeremy.Iappreciateyour-yourquestion,andthankyouforbeingherethiseveningandtoallofthosefromNassauCountythathavecome,thankyouforyourtime.ThankyoutoHofstraUniversityandtoCandyCrowleyfororganizingandleadingthis-thisevent.
Thankyou,Mr.President,alsoforbeingpartofthis-thisdebate.
collegekidsalloverthiscountry.IwasinPennsylvaniawithsomeonewhohadjustgraduated-thiswasinPhiladelphia-andshesaid,"I'vegotmydegree.Ican'tfindajob.I'vegotthreepart-timejobs.They'rejustbarelyenoughtopayformyfoodandpayforanapartment.Ican'tbegintopaybackmystudentloans."
Sowhatwehavetodoistwothings.Wehavetomakesurethatwemakeiteasierforkidstoaffordcollege.
ROMNEY:
Andalsomakesurethatwhentheygetoutofcollege,there'sajob.WhenIwasgovernorofMassachusetts,togetahighschooldegree,youhadtopassanexam.Ifyougraduatedinthetopquarterofyourairlines,wegaveyouaJohnandAbigailAdamsscholarship,fouryearstuitionfreeinthecollegeofyourchoiceinMassachusetts,it'sapublicinstitution.
IwanttomakesurewekeepourPellgrantprogramgrowing.We'realsogoingtohaveourloanprogram,sothatpeopleareabletoaffordschool.Butthekeythingistomakesureyoucangetajobwhenyougetoutofschool.Andwhat'shappenedoverthelastfouryearshasbeenvery,veryhardforAmerica'syoungpeople.Iwantyoutobeabletogetajob.
Iknowwhatittakestogetthiseconomygoing.Withhalfofcollegekidsgraduatingthisyearwithoutacollege-excuseme,withoutajob.Andwithoutacollegeleveljob,that'sjustunacceptable.
Andlikewiseyou'vegotmoreandmoredebtonyourback.Somoredebtandlessjobs.I'mgoingtochangethat.Iknowwhatittakestocreategoodjobsagain.Iknowwhatittakestomakesurethatyouhavethekindofopportunityyoudeserve.Andkidsacrossthiscountryaregoingtorecognize,we'rebringingbackaneconomy.
It'snotgoingtobelikethelastfouryears.Themiddle-classhasbeencrushedoverthelastfouryears,andjobshavebeentooscarce.Iknowwhatittakestobringthemback,andI'mgoingtodothat,andmakesurethatwhenyougraduate-whendoyougraduate?
QUESTION:
2014.
ROMNEY:
2014.Whenyoucomeoutin2014,IpresumeI'mgoingtobepresident.I'mgoingtomakesureyougetajob.ThanksJeremy.Yeah,youbet.
CROWLEY:
Mr.President?
OBAMA:
Jeremy,firstofall,yourfutureisbright.Andthefactthatyou'remakinganinvestmentinhighereducationiscritical.Notjusttoyou,buttotheentirenation.Now,themostimportantthingwecandoistomakesurethatwearecreatingjobsinthiscountry.Butnotjustjobs,goodpayingjobs.Onesthatcansupportafamily.
OBAMA:
AndwhatIwanttodo,isbuildonthefivemillionjobsthatwe'vecreatedoverthelast30monthsintheprivatesectoralone.Andthereareabunchofthingswecandotomakesureyourfutureisbright.
Numberone,Iwanttobuildmanufacturingjobsinthiscountryagain.NowwhenGovernorRomneysaidweshouldletDetroitgobankrupt.Isaidwe'regoingtobetonAmericanworkersandtheAmericanautoindustryandit'scomesurgingback.
Iwanttodothatinindustries,notjustinDetroit,butallacrossthecountryandthatmeanswechangeourtaxcodesowe'regivingincentivestocompaniesthatareinvestinghereintheUnitedStatesandcreatingjobshere.
Italsomeanswe'rehelpingthemandsmallbusinessestoexportallaroundtheworldtonewmarkets.
Numbertwo,we'vegottomakesurethatwehavethebesteducationsystemintheworld.Andthefactthatyou'regoingtocollegeisgreat,butIwanteverybodytogetagreateducationandwe'veworkedhardtomakesurethatstudentloansareavailableforfolkslikeyou,butIalsowanttomakesurethatcommunitycollegesareofferingslotsforworkerstogetretrainedforthejobsthatareoutthererightnowandthejobsofthefuture.
Numberthree,we'vegottocontrolourownenergy.Now,notonlyoilandnaturalgas,whichwe'vebeeninvestingin;butalso,we'vegottomakesurewe'rebuildingtheenergysourceofthefuture,notjustthinkingaboutnextyear,buttenyearsfromnow,20yearsfromnow.That'swhywe'veinvestedinsolarandwindandbiofuels,energyefficientcars.
We'vegottoreduceourdeficit,butwe'vegottodoitinabalancedway.Askingthewealthytopayalittlebitmorealongwithcutssothatwecaninvestineducationlikeyours.
Andlet'stakethemoneythatwe'vebeenspendingonwaroverthelastdecadetorebuildAmerica,roads,bridgesschools.Wedothosethings,notonlyisyourfuturegoingtobebrightbutAmerica'sfutureisgoingtobrightaswell.
CROWLEY:
LetmeaskyouformoreimmediateanswerandbeginwithMr.Romneyjustquicklywhat-whatcanyoudo?
We'relookingatasituationwhere40percentoftheunemployedhavebeenunemployedhavebeenunemployedforsixmonthsormore.Theydon'thavethetwoyearsthatJeremyhas.
Whataboutthoselongtermunemployedwhoneedajobrightnow?
ROMNEY:
Wellwhatyou'reseeinginthiscountryis23millionpeoplestrugglingtofindajob.Andalotofthem,asyousay,Candy,havebeenoutofworkforalong,long,longtime.Thepresident'spolicieshavebeenexercisedoverthelastfouryearsandtheyhaven'tputAmericansbacktowork.
Wehavefewerpeopleworkingtodaythanwehadwhenthepresidenttookoffice.Ifthe-theunemploymentratewas7.8percentwhenhetookoffice,it's7.8percentnow.Butifyoucalculatedthatunemploymentrate,takingbackthepeoplewhodroppedoutoftheworkforce,itwouldbe10.7percent.
Wehavenotmadetheprogressweneedtomaketoputpeoplebacktowork.That'swhyIputoutafive-pointplanthatgetsAmerica12millionnewjobsinfouryearsandrisingtake-homepay.It'sgoingtohelpJeremygetajobwhenhecomesoutofschool.It'sgoingtohelppeopleacrossthecountrythatareunemployedrightnow.
Andonethingthatthepresidentsaid,whichIwanttomakesurethatweunderstand,hesaidthatIsaidweshouldtakeDetroitbankrupt.Andthat'sright.Myplanwastohavethecompanygothroughbankruptcylike7-ElevendidandMacy'sandCondell(ph)Airlinesandcomeoutstronger.
AndIknowhekeepssaying,youwanttotakeDetroitbankrupt.Well,thepresidenttookDetroitbankrupt.YoutookGeneralMotorsbankrupt.YoutookChryslerbankrupt.SowhenyousaythatIwantedtotaketheautoindustrybankrupt,youactuallydid.
AndIthinkit'simportanttoknowthatthatwasaprocessthatwasnecessarytogetthosecompaniesbackontheirfeet,sotheycouldstarthiringmorepeople.ThatwaspreciselywhatIrecommendedandultimatelywhathappened.
CROWLEY:
Letmegivethepresidentachance.
Goahead.OBAMA:
Candy,whatGovernorRomneysaidjustisn'ttrue.Hewantedtotakethemintobankruptcywithoutprovidingthemanywaytostayopen.Andwewouldhavelostamillionjobs.Andthat-don'ttakemywordforit,taketheexecutivesatGMandChrysler,someofwhomareRepublicans,mayevensupportGovernorRomney.Butthey'lltellyouhisprescriptionwasn'tgoingtowork.
AndGovernorRomney'ssayshe'sgotafive-pointplan?
GovernorRomneydoesn'thaveafive-pointplan.Hehasaone-pointplan.Andthatplanistomakesurethatfolksatthetopplaybyadifferentsetofrules.That'sbeenhisphilosophyintheprivatesector,that'sbeenhisphilosophyasgovernor,that'sbeenhisphilosophyasapresidentialcandidate.
Youcanmakealotofmoneyandpaylowertaxratesthansomebodywhomakesalotless.Youcanshipjobsoverseasandgettaxbreaksforit.Youcaninvestinacompany,bankruptit,layofftheworkers,stripawaytheirpensions,andyoustillmakemoney.
That'sexactlythephilosophythatwe'veseeninplaceforthelastdecade.That'swhat'sbeensqueezingmiddleclassfamilies.
Andwehavefought